Dr. Phil experience leaves N.B. couple shaken

Published Wednesday March 19th, 2008

Notre Dame couple credits TV psychologist for helping them but say TV show distorted their lives

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Everyone you know has dirty laundry.

Now imagine having that dirty laundry put through the wash and spin cycle of the Dr. Phil Show, the great complexities and nuances of your life reduced to 22 highly public minutes.

If you're shuddering at the thought, imagine the quandary Ken Trites and Therese MacKay find themselves in. Since yesterday afternoon they've been living it, and it hasn't been pretty.

And while both freely admit there have been benefits to being on Phil McGraw's popular talk show, Ken and Therese now find themselves struggling to come to terms with the surreal experience.

For heaven's sake, don't ever let yourself be televised. That's the gist of the message Ken and Therese have for others. Both find it hard to fault particular individuals for their unpleasant experience in the glare of the TV lights, but can point to several ways in which the very nature of television has distorted the true nature of their lives.

When the film crew arrived at Therese's home in Notre Dame, about 15 minutes north of Moncton, to shoot some supplemental footage, they had a grocery list of "unscripted" typical household moments they wanted to tape.

Because the story was Ken was a domineering alcoholic, "they wanted to film me going to the fridge and bringing him a beer," Therese said, balking at the idea and denying she would wait on him like that.

Ken freely admits he is an alcoholic, but the script didn't fit the reality of his life. Though alcohol has caused problems in his life, he is not an everyday drinker. To the disappointment of the film crew, "we didn't have any beer in the fridge," Therese recalled with a laugh.

Undaunted, the crew also tried to convince Ken to be filmed sitting on the couch smoking a cigarette, something the couple don't do because of the children in the house.

Missing were all the ways Ken and Therese are fairly ordinary people living ordinary lives -- admittedly while dealing with problems.

Therese says TV just didn't capture the love between them or the true nature of Ken, a man who likes to cook, is handy and considerate and is good with kids. Nor did those 22 minutes capture their routines of going to work each day and having family meals and helping the kids with homework or reading bedtime stories.

Both are worried about the impact all this might have on their work lives and their families and are embarrassed about the results of allowing themsleves to be coaxed onto the show.

Both have found the past 48 hours so stressful they backed out after initially agreeing to appear on a Maritime TV news program last night and stopped answering their phones. They did however agree to talk to a Times & Transcript reporter, who dropped by Therese's tidy and smoke-free home on very short notice last night to chat around the kitchen table.

The "obsessed" woman who couldn't live without her man on yesterday's Dr. Phil doesn't actually live with her man. She and the kids moved out of his home a couple of years back because of his drinking, though they have remained a couple. She says she wanted a healthier environment for her children, who are from her previous marriage. She also said repeatedly last night that if Ken can't get a handle on his addictions, she will leave him for good, sounding much more like a typical mother than a woman prepared to sacrifice all for her boyfriend.

They say it was that departure from Ken's home two years ago that somehow got turned into what the TV show described this way: "Ken threw Theresa, her kids and all their belongings out on the front yard for the entire neighbourhood to see," In fact, they say, it was very much Therese's decision and not something Ken wanted.

Ken's also not sure how what was said to have happened on his front yard "for the entire neighbourhood to see" could have been witnessed at the top of his 300 foot driveway.

So why did they agree to go on the show after Therese's cousin first contacted Dr. Phil's producers?

"It had nothing to do with wanting to be on TV," Therese said.

Rather, they agreed to go because they genuinely thought the famed psychologist could help. Therese does give Phil marks for being sincere and she says the follow-up counselling the show arranged did help her. "All in all, it was okay. It wasn't bad. It was't wonderful." she said.

"I don't regret going," Ken said, "but I regret going because of how things went. They did help me. they gave me that initial push. But I was already getting help here before."

Thanks to the show, Ken did get follow up treatment in Texas, though ironically, a month of being clean was there replaced by being placed on "at least 30 pills" of different kinds each day, prescribed by doctors.

And on the journey to health via Dr. Phil, one must jump aboard the TV train, where everything has a way of jumping off the tracks.

"I wasn't going down there to look like a movie star, but I didn't want to look like this guy who's drunk and an addict who abuses his girlfriend all the time," Ken said. "I went down there because I knew he helped people... I used him, and he used me."

Artifice carried the day, as Therese tells it. "I said I was going to bring some nice clothes to go on the air. They said, 'don't worry, we have wardrobe.' We got there and they weren't as nice as the clothes I had."

Ken said he felt like he was portrayed as a monster.

"I just want some dignity and respect back. Who the hell would want to sit there and take the abuse I took on the show and not be able to get up onstage and explain things that went on."

"All of a sudden he's walking off the stage and it's all over. And I'm thinking to myself why did I come here, for this?"

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Hello Ken and Theresa, hats off for having the guts to appear on the Dr Phil show. You guys have to realise that Phil is in it for the all mighty $$. And Ken, people who actually watched the show saw exactly what happened. He did make you into this drunken monster and did not give you the time to state your side of things. I don't think that everybody will judge you by what they saw on tv. Those who judge you are not worth your time and I for one wish you all the luck in the world and hopefuly you guys will live a long and happy life together. Alcoolism is a disease that can be treated. Some people can handle their liquor and some can't. Prove Phil wrong Ken. Just mark up this experience up as a bad choice you made in your life and get on with helping yourself, and remember this, only YOU can make this work, not pills or even Dr.Phil. He's in it for the ratings. Stay strong and I will be praying for you guys.

God Bless
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Anonymous Reader on 19/03/08, 7:39:28 AM ADT
just crazy too go on there ..i never watch the show ,but i had too watch it,, if local maritimers on there..what are you guys thinking ...is he even a doctor...not much of one ...there was about 4 people here and we couldn t believe that ,they would go on there and spilling all your problems..now everyone knows....bad choice of going on there ...people do judge by what they saw on there..everyone here had a comment on the show and we don t even know the people...its dr phil, jerry springer all about the same....
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capergussie c., tch105 on 19/03/08, 10:15:01 AM ADT
Basically, they were looking for a little local fame and a free trip to LA. They got it.

Now suck it up and deal with the consequences! Next time, think about your kids first, instead of yourselves.
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Anonymous Reader on 19/03/08, 11:52:55 AM ADT
i would be hiding my self..digg a hole...shame on you for putting all your problems on national t.v....deal with like normal people...
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Anonymous Reader on 19/03/08, 12:33:46 PM ADT
"Dr. Phil" is to legitimate Psychology, what "Survivor" is to legitimate reality.

My condolences to you and your family for suffering this apparent public humility, but did you really think it would turn out any differently?
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Anonymous Reader on 19/03/08, 12:56:31 PM ADT
This is to Theresa. You have nothing to be embarrassed about. You looked quite nice and your story is interesting. You represent alot of woman out there, but most are afraid to admit on tv. You did the right thing. Only you my dear knows what your boyfriends like. But as well, Dr Phil was right in saying, perhaps your family knows best where as your not thinking clearly. You are beautiful, and look very smart. You know in your heart what your boyfriend is doing to you and you know it's wrong. You know your family is looking out for your best interest. Like Dr Phil stated, they would not be trying to ruin a good relationship for you. Take his advise. Do the right thing not for them, but for yourself. If I had your looks girl, I would move on and find someone who would treat me right and with alot less baggage. Best of luck to your girl. How brave you were to be on tv. Your stronger than you think.
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Anonymous Reader on 19/03/08, 3:43:26 PM ADT
Wow! Who knew that being on TV would air your dirty laundry in public? I mean, it is just an international television program, it isn't like anyone would see it, right? I don't know what these people expected when they signed up for help on a talk show?

First of all, the camera crew had to enter their home and tape various things to use during the editing process of their program (or 'b' roll) if they taped Mr. Trites reaching for a beer, it is because it was somehow relevant to the story otherwise it would not be justified. He DID admit he was an alcoholic after all.

Second of all, no one twisted their arm to do this show. No one twisted his arm to have a smoke on his couch and have it taped. Clearly the couple is just embarresed by how their lives really look when displayed on television. Sometimes the truth is hard to face. Maybe they should take responsibility for their actions rather than putting the blame on Dr Phil.
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Anonymous Reader on 19/03/08, 5:51:01 PM ADT
I like how people suggest she has nothing to be embarrassed about,,,,he does and so does she. She admitted to kicking down the door, calling the police on him because he wouldn't let her in!!! Is this legit? I saw a free trip for the two of them, if they didn't want to air their "dirty laundry" the key word everyone knows is the word "no". No thanks I won't be attending the show,,,,,,,c'mon,,,,,hey about the phone calls she makes to people who don't even know her? How do you know Ken? etc ,,,,please I see an insecure individual, who obviously got a kick out of their 15 minutes of fame,,,,,,,,,do me a favor and leave the "other" people who don't know you,,,ALONE. Get on with your life,,,,do yourself a favor,,,,,if he's that bad leave,,,,if not for you,,,then your children,,,,,,
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Anonymous Reader on 19/03/08, 5:54:04 PM ADT
To coin his trademark phrase:

WHAAAT were ya'all THINKIN??? ( Southern drawl, added for emphasis)
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Anonymous Reader on 19/03/08, 11:30:44 PM ADT
You can not sit there and bad mouth these people you have never met just because they decided to take the opertunity to seek help from Dr. Phil. I agree it could have to do with there 15 minutes of fame, but i do not agree with the way that Ken was protrayed. None of you know them but yet you tune into Dr. Phil everyday and you judge the people on there as if you are better than them. News flash!!! Your not, and i know for a fact the Ken Trites is not the person he was made out to be on the Dr. Phil show and i didn't have to watch it to find out what had happened. Yes Ken and Therese have there problems like every normal person, but i personaly think that this was very one sided. Yes Ken drinks but he does not do it everyday and he is not abusive the way the show made him out to be. I know for a fact that Ken is a very loving and kind person even when he dose have a few beers. So before you all judge them i think you should make sure your hands are clean of all your wrong doings.
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Anonymous Reader on 20/03/08, 2:46:42 AM ADT
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