Letters

Published Friday August 29th, 2008
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Animal bill just a start

To The Editor:

I would like to clarify a few things in response to Mr. Ward's impassioned letter yesterday on animal cruelty legislation.

First, I would like to make it clear to Mr. Ward that we are on the same team on this issue. I support any and all efforts to improve the treatment of animals and to punish people who mistreat and abuse them.

The fight against animal cruelty has been a part of the Liberal Party's work for many years, and as your Member of Parliament I believe that putting in place effective legislation is essential.

Second, my goal in supporting the passing of Bill-203 was to ensure that legislative improvements would be in place, as soon as possible. As I have said before, presenting ANY amendments to Bill-S-203 would have forced the Bill to be sent back to the Senate, and would have delayed the passage of ANY improvements, including those presented by my colleague Mark Holland.

I stand by my position that Bill S-203 is an important and necessary accomplishment; a first step that can be followed by further improvements, such as the Bill proposed by my colleague Mark Holland. We are not at the end of the battle against animal cruelty and my colleagues and I will continue to work so that the Criminal Code can be successfully updated to better reflect our values.

Brian Murphy, MP,

Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe

No fear if nothing hidden

To The Editor:

I found Michael Pugsley's letter "If we give up rights, who polices the police?" in the Aug. 25 Times & Transcript to be a bit over the top.

He was criticizing the letter that Ernest Robinson had written on Aug. 21 in which he voiced his approval for allowing police to search vehicles that they pull over for driving or other infractions.

I am in total agreement that the police should be allowed to search vehicles, if, as they claim, they first obtain the driver's permission to do so. This procedure is no different from that which we are subjected to when customs officers search our luggage and/or vehicles when we return to this country from abroad.

We expect our police force to keep our homes, businesses and our families safe, but every time we chip away at their ability to do so, citing the Canadian Charter of Rights, we are in fact reducing our expectations of safety.

In the recent past we have seen at least three high court decisions that impact on the ability of police to carry out their difficult and sometimes dangerous tasks.

In the first a lady was able to successfully plead that her rights were infringed because the speeding ticket she was given was not delivered by an officer who was able to speak the language of her choice.

In the second instance, a judge refused to accept evidence of drugs found in a vehicle following it being pulled over for a driving infraction, claiming that it was an illegal search, even though the driver had agreed to the officer searching his vehicle.

In the final case, the courts decided that it was an invasion of privacy to allow drug sniffing police dogs to check out the lockers of high school students in a school. If, by allowing random drug searches with or without dogs at schools, we can help to keep our children safe from the scourge of drugs, then I say it is worthwhile.

How else are our police going to be able to keep our children safe from pedophiles or drug pushers unless we give them the weapons to do so? And our namby-pamby Young Offenders Act is a joke in comparison to other countries.

If our police suspect that a vehicle they pull over for a driving infraction may be carrying drugs or contraband cigarettes or tobacco, and they have a reasonable suspicion, that should allow them to search the vehicle, with or without the driver's permission.

It is bad enough that the defence lawyers (often paid from taxpayers funds by Legal Aid) do everything they can to get their client set free or at least to have a reduced sentence, without having the very judges who are appointed, refusing to accept legally obtained evidence.

And to those who will cite the Canadian Charter of Rights, I say only those who have something to hide, need be afraid!

Keith J. Tindale,

Shediac

Don't tie hands of our police

To The Editor:

It was with some interest that I read Michael Pugsley's letter about police abuse of authority in Monday's paper.

I have to say that I pretty much doubt that searches are done on a whim. When police have reasonable suspicion, they act. I, for one, am happy they do because it all comes back to the simple equation that if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear from police interest.

It would appear that Mr. Pugsley would not have the police act on their suspicions. He posits what if your neighbour calls the police and says you have drugs in your car? Well, if they did search it based on the call (reasonable suspicion) and you're an upright citizen, then you have nothing to fear and it would then be the neighbour who would be the subject of interest from the police for a malicious and false report.

The incident in Montreal was a tragic mistake. These unfortunate situations do happen, sad to say. I'm sorry Mr. Pugsley, but hamstringing the authorities is as bad, if not worse, than unchecked authority.

From the tone of your letter the police shouldn't act on tips, suspicions, phone calls, Crimestoppers, etc. Ultimately, if we make it easier for criminals because we've made it hard for the police, then we all suffer.

Kevin Carson,

Moncton

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I am in total agreement with Keith and Kevin's letters. We cannot let the criminals hide behind the Charter of Rights and have the Judges throwing out cases when the RCMP and local police are just trying to do their jobs and protect us good citizens. A lot of times it seems that the Justic System gives more rights to the criminals than it does to the victims. It's time to get tough and let the police do what they are hired for.
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James Betts, Riverview on 29/08/08 08:17:03 AM AST
The police are not here to protect us. They are here to enforce the LAWS. The LAWS are drafted by much higher-up and respected people than the police force.

Some suggest that we just give cops guns and tell them to go get the bad guys. It doesn't and can't work that way. All citizens have rights as set by our LAWS and they have to be enforced within the LAW. If the cops break the LAWS during searches than it should be thrown out.

We are all innocent until proven guilty, even the guilty.
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Rural Genius, Moncton on 29/08/08 10:38:54 AM AST
To say THE LAWS are drafted by higher-up or more respected people than the police should be debated at the best of times. Anyone who knowingly or without a doubt break the law should not be able to get away with it just because of a technicality. It makes our Charter look like a joke sometimes. We pay to have people find ways to get us out of trouble even though we know darn well we committed the crime. If that is what the Charter is about then maybe it should be revisited. It is just not right that the guilty gets more respect than the victims.
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G. J., Hillsborough on 29/08/08 01:41:48 PM AST
Over the years I have been involved in many discussions about how a sophisticated country like Germany could descend into the horrors of a "police" state. This is an extreme example but.
All you have to do to get an understanding of how such things occur is to read some of the above comments and extrapolate the opinions of the writers into the political will of a majority. Its not that much of a journey.
We have a flawed and weak charter but it is all that we have between the average citizen and the capriciousness of bureaucracy. Cherish what little you have.
I'll content myself with having the odd druggie beating the system over living with the oppressiveness of a police state.
Cowardice and an irrational fear of crime are perhaps two of the defining characteristics of the average Canadian. Too bad for us.

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Ron Willis, Lower Queensbury on 29/08/08 10:24:20 PM AST
Dear Mr. Murphy:
Just exactly what is bill S-203 the start of? Is it the start of the end of hunting in Canada? Is it the start of the end of recreational or even commercial fishing? Is it the ultimate excuse to ban the ownership of firearms in Canada?
Does everything depend on the ruling of some idiot Quebec judge for precedent to achieve your goals?
Its also interesting that you refer to a private members bill by the likes of Mark Holland. That says verses about your character and the people supporting you.
Its really a sad commentary on political life in Canada when an M.P. has to dredge up the sick musings of the Senate and Holland's hatred of rural citizens to score a few cheap political points.
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Ron Willis, Lower Queensbury on 29/08/08 10:57:55 PM AST
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